Comments on: Alcohol Rehabs versus Peer-Group Recovery http://johntmarohn.com/blog/alcohol-recovery/alcohol-rehabs-versus-peer-group-recovery/ Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:03:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tim http://johntmarohn.com/blog/alcohol-recovery/alcohol-rehabs-versus-peer-group-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-962 Tim Sat, 29 May 2010 08:20:30 +0000 http://johntmarohn.com/blog/?p=71#comment-962 As a newcomer, the first time I heard someone introduce themselves as a 'recovered alcoholic' it gave me hope. In context of it being used, recovered does not mean 'cured'. It means more that the 'mental obssession' is in remission. and the 'phenomenon of craving' is not active because there is no alcohol in the body. Those are the two symptoms of alcoholism. If I am not suffering either of those things then... I am still an alcoholic but its time to go show someone else the way out. And as long as we stay in the trenches helping others, having done the work - the obsession stays away. That is my experience. The idea that 'we'll always be recovering' does not come from a certain altruistic movement, ;) *wink* it comes from the people who make money from from us always being sick and powerless. There is a great instruction book written - and on the title page it says - The Story of How Many Thousands of Men and Women Have Recovered from Alcoholism. You either believe it - or you dont. I beleive it. My belief is based on my expereince. I love being sober, my life is the best it has ever been. All the best, Tim, A recovered alcoholic. As a newcomer, the first time I heard someone introduce themselves as a ‘recovered alcoholic’ it gave me hope.

In context of it being used, recovered does not mean ‘cured’.
It means more that the ‘mental obssession’ is in remission.
and the ‘phenomenon of craving’ is not active because there is no alcohol in the body.

Those are the two symptoms of alcoholism. If I am not suffering either of those things then… I am still an alcoholic but its time to go show someone else the way out.

And as long as we stay in the trenches helping others, having done the work – the obsession stays away. That is my experience.

The idea that ‘we’ll always be recovering’ does not come from a certain altruistic movement, ;) *wink* it comes from the people who make money from from us always being sick and powerless.

There is a great instruction book written – and on the title page it says -

The Story of How Many Thousands of Men and Women Have Recovered from Alcoholism.

You either believe it – or you dont.

I beleive it.

My belief is based on my expereince.

I love being sober, my life is the best it has ever been.

All the best,

Tim,

A recovered alcoholic.

]]> By: Susan http://johntmarohn.com/blog/alcohol-recovery/alcohol-rehabs-versus-peer-group-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Susan Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:29:02 +0000 http://johntmarohn.com/blog/?p=71#comment-60 I appreciate your writing; so eloquent and a clear message. In my journey I struggled with very similar issues in trying to get beyond surviving to constructing a foundation to build a life on. A good conversation... I appreciate your writing; so eloquent and a clear message. In my journey I struggled with very similar issues in trying to get beyond surviving to constructing a foundation to build a life on.

A good conversation…

]]> By: Mike Harber http://johntmarohn.com/blog/alcohol-recovery/alcohol-rehabs-versus-peer-group-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Mike Harber Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:02:25 +0000 http://johntmarohn.com/blog/?p=71#comment-14 Excellent observation and I couldn't agree more. On many occasions I've seen newcomers use rehabs as revolving doors and never get beyond the 'pink cloud'. While time doesn't necessarily equal personal enlightenment; I do think it is necessary to experience some everyday ups and downs and come out clean/sober for any real progress to be made. I also enjoyed the message about not being overly confident. I'll be celebrating my 7 year anniversary this August and go weeks at a time without a thought of using - but, 'recovered' I will never be! Keep up the good work here... Excellent observation and I couldn’t agree more. On many occasions I’ve seen newcomers use rehabs as revolving doors and never get beyond the ‘pink cloud’. While time doesn’t necessarily equal personal enlightenment; I do think it is necessary to experience some everyday ups and downs and come out clean/sober for any real progress to be made.
I also enjoyed the message about not being overly confident. I’ll be celebrating my 7 year anniversary this August and go weeks at a time without a thought of using – but, ‘recovered’ I will never be!
Keep up the good work here…

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